Posted: Mon 29 Oct 2007 17:34 GMT
Post subject: Driving to Malta and staying for 6 months, what information
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- Dee44
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Does anyone know what documentation we need to show to customs to prove we intend leaving Malta with our car before the 6 month period expires. Do they have different import requirements if we only intended importing our car, say, 1 month, 3 months, or would we have to complete a temporary import permit, no matter how long we intend to be in Malta with our car.
The reason I asked;
On my previous posts I mentioned that we have a 10 years landrover discovery. I know it’s not financially viable to import our car on a permanent basis, but we are quite reluctant to get rid of it, so, we are looking at other possibilities.
One idea being; driving from the uk to Malta, enjoy the use of the car around Malta, explore every part of Malta and Gozo, then return to the uk, via the scenic route through Europe ( unsure where this would be, as yet), then sell the car at auction and fly back to Malta.
Benefits being; having a last final great journey with our car and enjoy touring Malta, Gozo and other parts of Europe. Also, we would not need to hastily purchase another car as soon as we arrived in Malta.
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Posted: Mon 29 Oct 2007 20:15 GMT
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- gozomark
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ADT: Malta Transport
[Link edited by Site Admin - it was making the page too wide for some people's screens. You can find out how to embed links in the FAQ board on the main forum. - Dave]
the answer might well be on the page above - if not this is the govt body to contact
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Posted: Tue 30 Oct 2007 06:53 GMT
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Posted: Wed 31 Oct 2007 09:21 GMT
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- peterj
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I looked at buying a car on a trip to the UK, driving it back to Malta for a 6 month stint and then taking it back to the UK again before returning to Malta. My info at the time, and that seems to be confirmed by Mark's link, was that this couldn't be done on the "Tourist 6 month exemption" as the 6 month limit relates to your residence in Malta rather than the time the car is here.
I haven't bought a car here (decided I didn't need one), but I looked closely at a few for sale before deciding that. You can certainly buy a running, registered, freshly VRT inspected banger for around 300Lm. 600Lm will buy you something that will have a reasonable chance of lasting a year or few and passing the next VRT (getting tougher as time goes on I understand). From there on up it's your choice as to what you want. Just don't get hung up on age of the vehicle. A 10 year old car is expected to be fit for scrap in the UK. Here it will probably have at least another 10 years lifespan, and most drivers seem to treat their vehicles accordingly.
Sure cars cost more than the same model year would in the UK, but by the time you consider the projected longevity (low annual mileage, no road salt, affordable and available repair facilities) and associated considerably lower depreciation rates, not to mention the much lower running costs (inc insurance, registration, maintenance, repairs) I would suggest that the overall cost of car ownership is lower here.
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Posted: Wed 31 Oct 2007 16:38 GMT
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- Dee44
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Thanks Peter, that was really interesting and helpful. I was interested in the “Tourist 6 month’s exemption”. Keith and I intend moving to Malta around March next year, so we are not presently resident, with this in mind, when we arrive, could we not be classed as tourists on a 6 month tour of Malta. How would they know we may intend staying longer? The accommodation rental agreement would initially be for 6 months, so no indication that we would be staying longer. We’re not planning to do anything illegal, but were wondering the pro’s and con’s etc.
To be honest, one of the advantages of the car is the usefulness of transporting our bits and bobs, including our computers etc. All the things that I don’t think will transport well and may end up in pieces or may not work. We really don’t have too much to transport, so the money we would spend on a carrier could go towards the trip; from my preliminary research carriers charge a minimum £400 to transport up to 2 cubic meters.
Touring Europe was an idea more to do with getting the last journey in the discovery, than the overwhelming need to tour Europe – we could do this anytime in the future really. But your idea of one way car hire is great and definitely something to remember.
Like you, we don’t think we will have a great use for a car after a time. I think the buses or hiring a car for short periods may suffice. That’s why I thought our car would be great to use for the first few months. I know there’s no monetary savings in my idea, but our car would be far more comfortable to use rather than anything we could afford to hire for 3 or 4 months.
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Posted: Wed 31 Oct 2007 18:29 GMT
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- peterj
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Based on the level of consistency and competence of the Maltese government officials I've met here so far, you would have a better than average chance of getting away with it, but I suspect that you would be breaking the law if you did. Can't see how the law could be easily enforced once the Disco is off the island again though, as they would find it difficult to assess the value for tax purposes if they couldn't find it. Mind you someone posted a warning here that somewhere (don't think it was Malta) was giving folk arbitrary import tax bills if their vehicle was stolen or wrecked
If you want to apply for an ID card (useful but not essential) you will be asked if you plan to become resident. Likewise if you apply for a residence permit (theoretically required after 3 months residence, so I don't know what 6mth tourists are supposed to do). I somehow doubt that government agencies here are sophisticated enough to exchange information though.
Perhaps you should check the price of more carriers? Someone posted a cost of I think 500 quid for a full container a while back. Have you tried any of the "excess baggage" companies, or actually priced airlines excess baggage rates? I wonder if anybody else coming over at a similar time might want to share a container?
Ferry prices for vehicles seemed huge last time I looked - about 500€ return for a car on the Genoa ferry. The Sicily option didn't look much better either.
You can hire a car here for under 50Lm a week or about 9Lm a day if that helps.
As far as computers go, best thing I ever did was to switch over to laptops. Might not suit you though.
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Posted: Wed 31 Oct 2007 18:37 GMT
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- gozomark
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peterj wrote:
Perhaps you should check the price of more carriers? Someone posted a cost of I think 500 quid for a full container a while back. Have you tried any of the "excess baggage" companies, or actually priced airlines excess baggage rates? I wonder if anybody else coming over at a similar time might want to share a container?. |
do you mean £500 or £5,000 ? we paid £5,000 for a 40 ft container, but was professionally packed etc etc
on cars - the authorites are very hot on imported cars, and how long they stay here - its down to the traffic wardens, who go by the letter of the law somewhat more than the police
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Posted: Wed 31 Oct 2007 20:17 GMT
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