Malta - British Expat Forum

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You have two choices, either move to Dorset / Hampshire, or come and join us out here

Central Lad.

Seeee, we agree!

Red

I am aware that i and most on the forum are migrants and i did include myself in the comment i made, the Maltese are becomming increasingly irritated by the amount of foreigners invading the island (they have a forum on it) Brits are mentioned in the comments therein, Dorset, will be my retreat eventually Came Down, nice.

dave dee wrote: the Maltese are becomming increasingly irritated by the amount of foreigners invading the island

You would think that after 3000 years of being invaded by the Phoenicians, Greeks, Carthaginians, Romans, Sicilians, Normans, Arabs, Turks, French, British, Italians, Germans and Spanish they would have got used to it..... The earliest known people of Malta (the Temple Era) either all left Malta or were wiped out, and the islands were re-populated hundreds of years later from Sicily, so everyone in Malta is a migrant. Malta was then ruled by Arab Muslims, hence the Maltese language which at its heart is Arabic. Malta was Muslim long after St Paul arrived - the idea its been Christian for 2,000 years just isn't true. Malta is as it is because of millenia of migrants, and its rich history is due to this. Migration is what keeps civilisations going, and should be embraced.

Its a bit rich for a small minority of the Maltese to complain about migrants, when there are more Maltese living outside of Malta than in Malta. In fact, there can't be many countries that have a larger diaspora population as a percentage of home population than Malta.

Also given that the vast majority of legal migrants living in Malta are EU citizens, there nothing they can do about it, short of leaving the EU.

If I may digress just a little, to tell of two ironic incidents.

Before my retirement I had a quite large Polish workforce on my books ( in Southampton ), and every day all I heard was the Polish language. So I decided to get away for a long weekend ( in Lyme Regis ), and enjoy the banter of the Locals.

But, I was shell shocked when the waitress, waiters, bar people, chefs, and kitchen staff, at the Hotel consisted of Poles, Czechs, or Ukraines

Then when visiting the Towns gift shops, lo and behold, many of the shop assistants were either Polish or Czechs

And Malta / Gozo think they have a problem with migrants

Take a trip to Paceville, you'd be surprised. Mark oop north we have a tool called a hammer and your last comments hit the nail with it, could be the last resort to save Britain also.

Dave Dee

Unfortunately, we are too far in to opt out. Neither this Government or the Tories , Lib whatevers, will get us out of the mess we are in

We just have to accept that the EU decides what we do, and what we will not do Malta will eventually come in line, like it or not, then the sh*** will hit the fan..................but too late

Correct centralad, i think the difference will be that the Maltese are not as soft as the British when it comes to their land being encroached upon too much, only time will tell.

Lets hope that what a very articulate Maltese gentleman said to me during an evenings discussion about the almost everything.

He said that the Maltese people are olympic class moaners.......but when it comes to action.......thats another thing

On reflection, he is probably right

centralad wrote:We just have to accept that the EU decides what we do, and what we will not do

In fairness, it was up to individual governments to decide when to grant freedom of movement to the new members, both in 2004 when the ten including Malta and most of Eastern Europe joined, and in 2007 when Bulgaria and Romania brought the total to 27.

In 2004, the UK, Ireland and Finland decided to grant freedom of movement immediately. The other 12 existing EU members went for a more gradual phasing in. In 2007, the UK decided that the Bulgarians and Romanians would have to wait for a while.

But sooner or later, the freedom of movement provisions would have kicked in in any case. The fact that only three countries out of 15 opened their doors immediately meant that, naturally, they were seen as prime prospects for those looking to improve their earnings by working overseas. And arguably the UK benefited economically as a result, as did Ireland, sustaining economic growth for a bit longer than they might otherwise have done.

Besides, for the most part I get the impression that it's not the temporary immigrants exercising their legitimate rights to work in the UK that have caused the problems. Most of them come to the UK, work within the system, and pay their taxes as UK workers do.

I was under the impression that the major problems most British people had were with asylum seekers and the (possibly over-generous) provisions made for them. (The UK has actually taken in fewer asylum seekers than its population warrants, compared with other EU members. Malta, of course, has taken in many more - though the country that's taken in most is Sweden.) But the fact that someone's from Eastern Europe doesn't necessarily mean that they're not earning an honest wage, any more than the fact that someone's a British expat necessarily means that they are.

I think we will have to agree to disagree with much of what you stated 8)

With regard to asylum seekers, it has been proved that the majority are bogus asylum seekers, which is probably why the UK 's quota is smaller than other Countries.

With regard to eastern european workers / non workers, I could write a book about them, from my own experiences, as 10% of the population of my former UK City consists of eastern europeans. But it would not be very complimentary, so I will say no more

Tax & NHI being paid by foreign workers ? Perhaps the child benefits claimed by them for children back in their own Country, might even things out

centralad wrote:Tax & NHI being paid by foreign workers ? Perhaps the child benefits claimed by them for children back in their own Country, might even things out

I deliberately said "as UK workers do". Tax evasion isn't a new import to the UK, and nor is benefit fraud. In fact we've got a thriving export industry - I've met a few of the exports

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You have two choices, either move to Dorset / Hampshire

Seriously Don't

Two of our good friends moved back to Weymouth last week. They say they should have done that a couple of years ago.

As a well known sage once said, words to the effect of: It takers a year for the Rose tinted glasses to come off.

What was it Arnie once said?




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