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Postby ruggie » Mon 28 Dec 2009 21:14 GMT

Apparently, this new film isn't the first to suggest Sherlock had homosexual leanings.
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Sat 2 Jan 2010 23:55 GMT

Meh. He wasn't gay.... but his boyfriend was. :wink:
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Postby Dave » Mon 4 Jan 2010 12:28 GMT

Hmm... it's been debated in the past - particularly in the context of Watson's reaction to Holmes's "return from the dead" after falling over the Reichenbach Falls with Professor Moriarty.

Viz had a one-off cartoon strip called "Sherlock Homo", but I don't think that counts for anything.
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Sun 10 Jan 2010 20:43 GMT

If you're talking about the new Sherlock Holmes movie, I saw it last night. I didn't notice any references that he was light on the loafers. Excepting, of course, that it was Robert Downey Jr., who is ever so slightly in touch with his feminine side anyway. :)

Overall, it was quite entertaining. It felt a little sacrilegious because Holmes and Watson were nothing like the characters we know and love.

7/10 from me.
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Postby CustomStrat » Sun 14 Feb 2010 16:54 GMT

Savannah_Alan wrote:If you're talking about the new Sherlock Holmes movie, I saw it last night. I didn't notice any references that he was light on the loafers. Excepting, of course, that it was Robert Downey Jr., who is ever so slightly in touch with his feminine side anyway. :)

Overall, it was quite entertaining. It felt a little sacrilegious because Holmes and Watson were nothing like the characters we know and love.

7/10 from me.


That's right; he looks nothing like Basil Rathbone or Peter Cushing... :wink:

I enjoyed it immensely. Well made, well acted with gobs of atmosphere and grimy period feel. And Robert Downey Jr is one of the few Yank actors who can do a credible Brit accent...
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Mon 15 Feb 2010 11:58 GMT

Mike. Shame on you. I'm forever telling the Americans off for that one. What's a "Brit accent"? Which country? Which language? Which region? Which dialect? :D
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Postby gozomark » Mon 15 Feb 2010 16:22 GMT

It maybe impossible to define a Brit accent - however, it is possible to say what isn't.....

Kevin Costner in Robin Hood
Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins

in the end, both films were still great
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Postby Kay » Mon 15 Feb 2010 16:47 GMT

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Postby gozomark » Mon 15 Feb 2010 17:02 GMT

Worst British accents ever
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Mischa Barton - St Trinian's (2007)
Heather Graham - From Hell (2001)
Don Cheadle - Oceans 13 (2007)
Kevin Costner - Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991)
Madonna - Swept Away (2002)
Natalie Portman - V For Vendetta (2005)
Mike Myers (As Fat Bastard) - Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me (1999)
Forrest Whitaker - The Crying Game (1992)
Christopher Lambert - Highlander (1986)
Keanu Reeves, Winona Ryder - Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992)
Dick Van Dyke - Mary Poppins (1964)
Denzel Washington - For Queen And Country (1988)
Marlon Brando - Mutiny On The Bounty (1962)
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Postby CustomStrat » Tue 16 Feb 2010 01:49 GMT

Alan, I was speaking generally...generically, if you like. London East End, Liverpool, Newcastle, Birmingham, etc, all have their regional tonalities but in general they're all variations of English as spoken by residents of the UK as opposed to those from Australia or New Zealand or South Africa. To my ears Robert Downey Jr's accent was rather BBC-like in it's bland non-regional specificity and authentic.

As gozo's list indicates Americans are notoriously dreadful at sounding like caricatures at best. Did Kevin Costner even attempt an accent?
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Tue 16 Feb 2010 01:53 GMT

Hi Mike. I was referring to the fact that "British", assuming "of Britain" would denote three countries with their own languages - let alone accents.

I wouldn't imagine, say, Kay's accent being thought of as the same, or similar to mine.
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Postby gozomark » Tue 16 Feb 2010 05:29 GMT

Savannah_Alan wrote:I wouldn't imagine, say, Kay's accent being thought of as the same, or similar to mine.


However, I'm assuming you both speak with an accent that would be similar to other people somewhere in the UK, and you can hold that accent, atleast for a couple of hours. Not sure if that could be said of many of the ones in the list :D

How about worst non-UK accents ?

Billy Connelly in Last Samurai
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Tue 16 Feb 2010 05:32 GMT

Haha. I'm awful with accents. Not sure I can reliably do my own. :lol:
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Postby gozomark » Tue 16 Feb 2010 05:40 GMT

Connery 'has worst film accent'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3032052.stm

"Movie buffs at Empire magazine gave Sir Sean top spot for his portrayal of Irish cop Jim Malone in the 1987 film The Untouchables" - one of my favourite films - again showing a bad accent don't necessarily make a good film bad. Ditto numbers 3, 9 and 10

TOP TEN WORST MOVIE ACCENTS
1. Sean Connery in The Untouchables (1987)
2. Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins (1964)
3. Brad Pitt in Seven Year in Tibet (1997)
4. Charlton Heston in A Touch of Evil (1958)
5. Heather Graham in From Hell (2001)
6. Keanu Reeves in Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992)
7. Julia Roberts in Mary Reilly (1996)
8. Laurence Olivier in The Jazz Singer (1980)
9. Pete Postlethwaite in The Usual Suspects (1995)
10. Meryl Streep in Out of Africa (1985)
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Postby Kay » Tue 16 Feb 2010 06:29 GMT

I vote for Sean Bean as being the worst at doing any accent. He can do Sheffield and that's it. His attempts at doing a posh Brit accent are hilarious! Good old Sean. He can't act but somehow I still like him. :D
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