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My new slide scanner

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My new slide scanner

Postby ruggie » Fri 6 Jan 2006 13:01 GMT

Kay, I think I promised you some feedback on the slide scanner I got from Jessops just before Christmas.

I'm very impressed so far, particularly with the way it handles dark areas. I scanned a pic of an old rope block & tackle, taken in a dark barn using on-camera flash, and there are no discernable noise artifacts in any of the dark areas (most of the pic), but quite a bit of detail in the shadows.

This is the current Jessops bottom of the range basic one-slide-at-a-time scanner selling at 100 quid in the UK (they change from time to time as technology advances). If you want to look for it in Thailand, the model is

Primefilm 3600U. Optocal resolution is 1800dpi and it can interpolate to 3000 dpi, which it does very well. It also has preset calibrations for most popular slide, print nad B&W films.

I'll cut a small sample out of my 3000 dpi scan and post it here later.

It's not fast, but certainly no slower at high resolution than the Nikon 400 dpi scanner I used a couple of years ago, and it seems to have a similar dynamic range. I'll report back whne I've tried a lot of different slides & negs.
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Fri 6 Jan 2006 17:01 GMT

Can I muscle in on this one? I'd love to know your opinion on how it compares to scanning on a flatbed scanner with the usual slide attachment.

I have many, slides slides from my travels and can't get quite good enough quality from my flatbed scanner.

I look forward to some samples.

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Postby ruggie » Sat 7 Jan 2006 10:24 GMT

It's a while since I tried scanning 35mm using an attachment on a flatbed, which was definitely inadequate. The resolution was too low, and there was no associated software.

Although my slide scanner software does an excellent job interpolating to 3000 dpi, experts say that it won't beat scanning at the optical resolution of the scanner (1800 dpi in my case) and using Photoshop to post-process the result.
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Postby ruggie » Sat 7 Jan 2006 11:46 GMT

Here's a display-sized jpeg of the test pic, after a little Photoshop adjustment to remove the overexposure of part of the pulley block. Sorry about the gaudy yellow numberplates - I'll fix those later.

http://www.dontstoptheworld.com/DSTWimages/testscan001.jpg

and here's a TIFF file of a tiny sample of the untouched scan at 3000dpi (interpolated by the scanner software from the 1800dpi optical resolution) with some dark shadow:

http://www.dontstoptheworld.com/DSTWimages/3000dpiscan.tif
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Postby Kay » Sat 7 Jan 2006 14:19 GMT

Thanks for the feedback, Ruggie. Very interesting. Unfortunately we won't be buying any gadgets in the near future. Never mind, it'll be good to know how you're getting on with yours meanwhile.
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Postby ruggie » Sat 7 Jan 2006 14:42 GMT

Alan, I've discovered why I got the noiseless shadows. I scanned at 16 bit color depth and reduced to 8 bit in Photoshop. Letting the scanner produce the 8 bit image is a disaster.
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Sat 7 Jan 2006 17:08 GMT

mmm, that's certainly far better quality than I have got from my slides.

Mine always end up looking like cheesy 80's postcards :roll:

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Looks like I'll have to send my entire collection over to you for scanning then :wink: .

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Postby ruggie » Sat 7 Jan 2006 19:27 GMT

Looks like I'll have to send my entire collection over to you for scanning then .

If you're prepared to wait. I've just started on the first of half-a-dozen boxes of slides of colonial Africa that we've just inherited, each containing 100 slides. And then there are a few of my own pictures, plus my wife's life collection. Think I'd better do a bit of triage first....

PS that's got be a dam in the US - they're tearing up and down it in bloody great powerboats.... (To be fair, I know of an upstate NY one that has no pleasure boats on it at all, because it is controlled by NY City 129 miles away and provides their drinking water).
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Postby Mike » Fri 13 Jan 2006 21:03 GMT

Like you guys, I have slides to scan. When I bought my first digital camera a year ago, it was intended as a supplementary tool.

I bought it from Jessops in Inverness, and the guy said "No, give it a week or two. Get to know it. Your SLR will be second choice."

I didn't believe him at the time, even though he wasn't a plooky yooth. He was about my age, and (respect to Jessops, for recruiting guys like him) he knew photography.

He was right.

My supplementary income has been enhanced many-fold, thanks to the best quality digital camera I could afford.

But I still have a life's work of trannies, and I am so fed up with sending originals to publishers, and never getting them back.

I can't afford a state of the art film scanner, and anyway, I need a scanner which will cope with mounted slides. Real pros have archives of strips of reversal film, but I just have boxes of slides.

Allegedly, the scanner I have just bought can handle four mounted slides at a time. It's not a Jessop's one, because Jessops don't accept debit cards. Their loss.

It should arrive next week.

If it works to my satisfaction, I will post here, and even reveal the make and model. If it doesn't, I will retire into a corner and lick my wounds.


Fitivver, I still have an issue with Jessops. I can't praise them enough for their range and their prices. I doubt if there is a better photographic retailer in the UK. What is their problem with debit cards? Is a debit card not the most reliable method of payment available?

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Postby ruggie » Sat 14 Jan 2006 16:17 GMT

It puzzles me, too, when companies won't accept debit cards. It's us that take the risk using them - you don't get automatic cover for unsatisfactory goods.

Companies that do take debit cards (e.g. P&O Ferries) actually surcharge" you if you use a credit card.

Incidentally, I've often used VISA debit cards where I've been asked for a credit card - I don't think the merchant can tell the difference. Is it debit-only cards like SWITCH which are a problem?
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