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A Lesson Learnt

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A Lesson Learnt

Postby Savannah_Alan » Fri 17 Mar 2006 16:32 GMT

Have you ever come back from a photo session and found you've nearly captured that "perfect" shot except for one stupid mistake?

I recently hiked up to Blood Mountain which is a beautiful spot with spectacular views. Some believe the name came from a bloody battle between the Cherokee Indians and Creek Indians long before white men arrived in the area. Other theories trace the name to red lichen or Catawba rhododendron growing on the rocky summit.

Anyway, I'm kicking myself about this photo:
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What's the lesson learnt from this photo? FILL IN FLASH!
This would be one of my all time favourite shots: great subject, unusual and compelling shooting angle, good depth of field isolating the subject while showing enough detail in the background - but deep shadows on the face :evil: . As it is, this photo is headed for the "nearly perfect" pile.

If only I had used fill in flash as in this lesser photo: (see the larger version for clarity).
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Oh well. Lesson hopefully learnt. I'll have to drive 17 miles and hike two to replicate this again.

Moral of the story and note to self: Flash is not just for nighttime!

Alan.
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Postby ruggie » Sat 18 Mar 2006 09:50 GMT

Good example, Alan. But there might be enough shadow detail to correct the problem in Photoshop/The Gimp, if you've got the time and the patience to select the shady part of the face. A test of retouching skills! If you can send me a slightly bigger image, I'd be willing to have a go - I'm getting better with practice :roll: The difficult bit wouldbe to sharpen and increase the contrast of the eyes but still keep it looking natural.
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Sat 18 Mar 2006 18:29 GMT

Hi Mike. This is the post process version! It already has been "Gimped" (don't you just love that program?).
The original was worse! I actually selected the entire head from the bandana upwards and adjusted the curves to lighten the shadows.

Thanks for the offer though. I'd be glad to send you a larger version though if you fancy a go.

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Postby ruggie » Mon 20 Mar 2006 17:55 GMT

Thought it looked pretty good for a no-fill pic in that light! In that case, I don't expect to improve on your result. But if you send a file to michael.kingdom-hockings at wanadoo dot (france) I'll put it on my list of challenges....
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Mon 20 Mar 2006 18:18 GMT

OK, I just sent you the original Mike. I hope you can receive large-ish attachments. It's 2.5M out of the camera :shock: . Good luck with it!

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Postby ruggie » Tue 21 Mar 2006 16:19 GMT

I now have two large maiboxes. When wanadoo.fr gave me broadband they offered me a big mailbox, too. But big files often get low priority thorugh the nodes, so I'll have to wait a little while for your pic. Thanks.
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Postby ruggie » Wed 22 Mar 2006 06:24 GMT

Haven't seen the file yet, Alan. To clarify the address - the domain is wanadoo.fr, there's a dot after michael and a hyphen between kingdom and hockings.
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Postby Savannah_Alan » Wed 22 Mar 2006 07:17 GMT

Hi Mike,
It seemed I went through every version of wanadoo (instead of wanado) and .france instead of .fr yesterday.

I did get some ndr's but I though the last one had gone through. I've just sent it again, although I did send it to that permutation yesterday (wanadoo and .fr)

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Postby Savannah_Alan » Wed 22 Mar 2006 07:21 GMT

Oops :oops: I had been sending them all to "Kingdom-Hocking" rather than "Kingdom-Hockings". Just sent it yet again.

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Postby ruggie » Wed 22 Mar 2006 09:56 GMT

Got it! Thanks. Great pic when I see it at full scale. Let's see what I have managed to learn so far about retouching....
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